Trying to Start the Posting Process

Last week when I got The Posting Message, I tried to start the posting process. According to Paragraph 5 of The Posting Message, I had to apply to the Integrated Relocation Program (IRP) before I could see a Royal LePage Relocation Service (RLRS) representative.

So, I went to the RLRS website and registered. I got an automated reply that they had not yet received any of our documentation so I must wait 5 days for the next email.

I’ve waited over 7 days and so far have not received an email. So, I went through the application process AGAIN only to receive another automated email that said they had not yet received any of our documentation so I must wait 5 days for the next email.

So, I forwarded that email to hubby and he will manually send The Posting Message to RLRS so we can get moving on this.

Hopefully, we will be able to get some action on this topic very soon.

Army Wife motto: Hurry up and Wait.

Change of Strength Date

If you read the previous post, you’ll see The Posting Message. It seems like they’re screaming at you because it is all in UPPERCASE but that is a carryover from when they used telex machines and no one has bothered to change it yet.

Actually it probably doesn’t matter since most of the information is acronyms that are in UPPERCASE anyway, it would cost too much just to put the occasional word in lowercase.

So, as far as the message goes, points 1 and 2 don’t mean too much to me. Point 1 tells me who my husband is (I already know that) and point 2 tells me where he currently is (most of the time I know that too).

Point 3 is significant because it tells us the COS date. The COS Date is called the “change of strength” date. What it means is that is the day that hubby’s posting takes effect, the day that NDHQ (National Defense Headquarters) changes his file from his old job to his new job.

This is important for a couple of reasons:

  1. If the move is to take place across a provincial boundary, then that is the date that the income tax rate on the member’s pay statement changes from one provincial rate to the other.
  2. If you are applying for military housing and there is a waiting list, the members application for housing only becomes active 60 days prior to the COS date. This can have serious implications if you are moving OUT of an apartment or civilian home you need to set the closing date of your home sale close to the COS date so you can have a door-to-door move.

How the COS date affects our life for this move.
We are currently renting an apartment in Quebec. For those of you who are not familiar with Quebec’s Régie du logement (Landlord Tenant Board), ALL leases finish on June 30th of any given year. This means we will have to leave our current apartment by June 30th or be responsible for rent payments and the condition of the apartment for another FULL YEAR even if we find sub-lettors.

So, we have got to move well in advance of the COS date written in the posting message. I know that the CF (Canadian Forces) is used to dealing with this problem so I’m only worried a little bit.

There are two options:

  1. They put our stuff in storage from the time we move out of our apartment until the COS date when we would get a military house.
  2. They allow us to move into military housing before the COS date.

Since Option 1 has the CF paying for everything (storage, hotels for us), and option 1 we pay them rent for housing, I’m hoping we get Option 2. I don’t want to live in a hotel for a month.

The Posting Message

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Last week the posting message was cut (that means Ottawa printed it and sent it out to my hubby) Last Friday hubby sent me an electronic copy.

Here is what it looks like. I’ve cleaned it up a bit and replaced sensitive information with stuff in [square brackets].

PROTECTED A [member’s service number]
FEB 09
[A listing of all units that need to know about this message]

BILINGUAL MESSAGE // MESSAGE BILINGUE – yes it comes in both languages

SUBJ:POSTING INSTR [service number] [rank, name]
1. [service number] [rank, name], OCCUPATION [military occupation code], SEC CL [security clearance level], FOL [first official language]ENGLISH; SL EEE [second language E=exempt from testing] DEPENDANTS: SPOUSE F/YYYY M/YYYY [I am the spouse and the kids are labelled as male and female with year of birth]

2. CURRENT POSN: [more military numbers and letters to describe the current tasking], [city], [country]

3. POSTED ON 11-AUG-2009 [date the actual member’s personnel file transfers from one unit to the other], TO [more codes indicating job description the member is posted to]  POS LNG REQ: BILINGUAL POS LNG PROFILE: ENG:BBB FRE:BBB [This describes the linguistic requirements of the position. The member must have at least a level B in his/her second language, whether that be English or French as second language]

4. MOVEMENT/STORAGE OF (D) HG AND E RESTRICTED IAW CFAO 209-28 AND CFIRP CERT IAW FAA 32 INTERNAL ORDER IO M930030769 CC 3398AZ FUNDS C107 CATEGORY OF MOVE 08 APPROPRIATE GENERAL LEDGER IAW FMAS
[This means that the dependants (us) household goods and effects (our stuff) will not be permitted to move until lodging is secured at the destination because those are the rules]

This next part is to tell you how to follow the rules and the procedures.
5. A. MEMBERS ELIGIBLE FOR A MOVE UNDER THE CFIRP MUST PRE-REGISTER ON THE ROYAL LEPAGE RELOCATION SERVICES WEB SITE AT WWW.IRP-PRI.COM PRIOR TO CONTACTING THE RLRS REPRESENTATIVE. ANY OTHER INFORMATION REGARDING RELOCATION BENEFITS CAN BE ACCESSED ON THE DIN AT HTTP://HR.OTTAWA-HULL.MIL.CA/DGCB/DCBA OR ON THE INTERNET SITE AT WWW.FORCES.GC.CA/DGCB/DCBA BY CLICKING ON THE CF INTEGRATED RELOCATION PROGRAM OPTION FOUND ON THIS SITE FOR MOVES UNDER CFIRP OR THE APPLICABLE CBI IF MOVED OUTSIDE OF CFIRP. [This part tells where to go to get the rules. The DIN is the secured “Defense IntrA Net” not the standard intERnet that you and I can go to.]

These are more rules and procedures to follow.
B. RETURN TO CANADA POSTING. DCBA WILL APPROVE YOUR ELIGIBILITY FOR A MOVE OF DEPENDANTS, HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND EFFECTS (D,HG AND E) UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE CANADIAN FORCES INTEGRATED RELOCATION PROGRAM (CFIRP) AND ADVISE ROYAL LEPAGE RELOCATION SERVICES (RLRS) OF YOUR ELIGIBILITY. MEMBERS ARE ASKED TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS PRIOR TO CALLING THE RLRS CFA:
1. IT IS NECESSARY TO OBTAIN YOUR PAY RECORD IN ORDER TO CALCULATE YOUR POSTING ALLOWANCE,
2. ANY LEASE TERMINATION PENALTIES ON YOUR CURRENT ACCOMMODATION,
3. ACQUISITION INTENTIONS (REOCCUPY YOUR PREVIOUS RESIDENCE, PURCHASE, APPLY FOR SINGLE OR MARRIED QUARTERS, RENT COMMERCIAL ACCOMMODATION),
4. DATE OF BIRTH OF DEPENDANT CHILDREN, AND
5. YOU WILL BE ASKED TO PROVIDE YOUR SOCIAL INSURANCE NUMBER (SIN) AS REQUIRED BY REVENUE CANADA

C. AS A REMINDER, PURSUANT TO QR AND O 101.09 AND 108.10, ALL SUPERIOR COMMANDERS, COMMANDING OFFICERS AND DELEGATED OFFICERS REQUIRE A VALID PRESIDING OFFICER CERTIFICATION BEFORE REPEAT BEFORE THEY CAN ASSUME THEIR DUTIES. IT IS SUGGESTED, THEREFORE, THAT THESE OFFICERS TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO CERTIFY OR RE-CERTIFY AS NECESSARY BY CONTACTING THEIR LOCAL AJAG OR DJA

6. MBR DF&E LOCATED IN [Quebec]

END OF ENGLISH TEXT//DEBUT DU TEXT FRANCAIS [I’ll spare you the painful part of reading this whole thing again in Canada’s other official language]

So, there you have it. My work for the next week. I’ll keep you informed about what happens next as soon as I’ve sorted through what exactly it is I have to do next.

The Rumours Begin

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Here is the story.

We are currently living in Québec, Canada.

My husband who is the military member is deployed. That means he is not living with us as his current tasking is somewhere else on the planet that his family can not go. AND I can’t talk about where he is or what he’s doing so don’t ask.

The Rumours

We’ve heard rumours that my husband will be transferred to another military base in the summer of 2009.

I don’t really believe rumours. I’ve learned through the years that you need to see it on official paperwork (or the electronic equivalent) before you take any action or make any plans.

So, tune in right here, join me and my family and find out what life is like trying to move from one city to another across a provincial boundary. Or maybe not, maybe they are just rumours!